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Friday, May 2, 2008

Coming Out Of Darkness Part 7 - Gary Sigler


Coming Out Of Darkness Part 7 of 7 - Gary Sigler


God's Timetable

We have been thrilled with the response we have received from these messages. The reports are coming in from all over the country that people are so excited and appreciate the love of God much more since realizing His heart as a Father. I must admit that I was somewhat surprised. The system of Christianity has given us many wrong concepts of God, which makes it very confusing and hard for some to realize that our Father will perfect His plan and purpose in our lives.
Jesus said to His disciples, "It is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given" (Matt. 13:11). God is revealing to His seekers in these days the reality of walking in the Kingdom of God. This revelation is not given to the masses of Christianity, but to those who have a heart-cry to know the reality of His indwelling life. God has been restoring many things to the Church since the days of Martin Luther. I believe that one of the last revelations to be given before the complete manifestation of the "Sons of God" is that the hearts of the children must be turned toward God to see him as their Father, who is perfecting them according to His plan and purpose.
God has certain times and seasons in your life when He will bring to you that which you need for your spiritual growth and understanding. I will never forget when I was introduced to a book by E.W. Kenyon. I was going over my bookshelf one day looking for something to read when I found a book called In His Presence by Kenyon. I have no idea how that book was placed on my bookshelf. I was amazed at the revelation, and yet the simplicity that was in that writing. When I read In His Presence, I was so excited that I wrote to Kenyon’s publishing company and ordered every book he had written. I saturated myself in his writings for about three months and they literally changed my life. I had such a revelation of the living and abiding Word of God. After I read those books, I gave away hundreds of Kenyon’s books, but not one person that I gave them to seemed to have their lives impacted the way I did.
I really believe that Jesus is the author and the finisher of our faith (Heb. 12:2). He brought me to a point where I could receive more light and understanding. My burden in ministry today is to bring people out of the darkness of religion, and human effort, into the glorious light of the gospel message proclaimed by the writers of the New Testament. I believe that God is beginning to remove the veil that has been cast over all nations (Isa. 25:7). He is beginning to reveal His heart toward His creation. No matter how much Bible knowledge we have, only God can open our understanding and our hearts to be able to receive that which He has. This is according to His timetable and not ours. As I have shared before, "For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming" (1 Cor. 15:22-23). God has a specific plan and purpose for every person. For some, it takes much more time and dealings by God before they will submit to His will.
Three Stages of Spiritual Growth
There are basically three stages of spiritual growth in the Christian life, as revealed by the Apostle John, "I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for His name’s sake. I write unto you, fathers, because ye have known Him that is from the beginning. I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the wicked one. I write unto you, little children, because ye have known the Father I have written unto you, fathers, because ye have known Him that is from the beginning. I have written unto you, young men, because ye are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the wicked one" (1 John 2:12-14).
Little Children
When we are first born again, we are newborn babies, and it takes some time for spiritual growth. We need the liberty to be babies and little children until we grow up. John says in 1 John 2:1, "My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous."
The ideal is that once you come to know Jesus, "I would that you sin not." But if you do sin, remember you have an advocate with the Father. John is saying here that right from the very beginning we need to realize that God is our Savior. If you are saved, you have a heart for God and you do not want to sin. When you have a heart for God, deep inside you want to be conformed in His image. So John says, "Little children, I would that you sin not, but if you do, remember that you have an advocate, Jesus Christ the righteous." Little children do not know a whole lot. They need, more than anything, to be properly fed. You do not teach a baby how to be a full-grown man. As parents, we do not expect a whole lot from our little children. One of the great problems in the system of Christianity that hinders spiritual growth is that after we are born again they will not allow us the time to be little children. They expect us to be born again and then start being a spiritual man. Religion condemns all the little children because they are not grown up. Little children are still worldly. They still do many things that a mature person wouldn’t do. The one thing a little child has is confidence in their Father. They never feel like they cannot go to their Father, regardless of what they do. A child always knows that they can go to their Father and receive love and forgiveness. We Christians have a hard time believing that God is good enough to receive us just the way we are. He knows our habits and sins, yet He loves and forgives us anyway. When God called you, you may have been a prostitute or a king. When He called you, He knew exactly what you were and what it would take to transform you. He looks way beyond where you are today and He sees you in eternity fully transformed and walking in the realm of the Kingdom. Romans chapter 8 says that we have been called, predestinated, justified and glorified, all in the past tense. God looks at the finished work.
God’s Unlimited Forgiveness
You cannot sin more than God’s ability and willingness to forgive. In fact, He has already forgiven you. On the cross, every sin ever committed, past, present, and future, was forgiven. At the cross, sin, the world, the flesh and the devil were taken into death and did not come out of the grave. In God’s eyes, sin is no more. He fully dealt with the sin problem. This cannot be just a doctrine. We need the revelation to see the full redemption that was purchased at Calvary. When we have the light and revelation of God concerning redemption, we will never be condemned again for the areas in our lives that need transformation. There will come a day when the veils will be fully removed from our eyes and we will see that sin is no more and we will be free from it. The fear of sin is what keeps many in bondage to it. I am no longer afraid of sin. I know I still experience it in certain areas, but I no longer fear it. I know sin is a product of the carnal realm. As long as I am not fully transformed, the carnal man will affect me at times. However I no longer fear this, I just continue to seek God and know that as I seek Him, as I touch Him, He will flow into those areas and bring transformation. When you no longer fear sin, it loses power in your life.
One of the greatest problems today is that we do not feel good enough to partake of the riches of Christ. We do not see the power of God operating in our lives because we feel that we are not worthy. We do not believe in the simplicity of the gospel. Jesus bore the penalty for our sin and we should not feel condemned, but rather forgiven. We are God’s children, born from above. We have a new nature, but we are still for the most part little children. Because we are still more natural than spiritual, we condemn ourselves for what we do in the flesh. We feel we deserve condemnation rather than God’s forgiveness. We feel, because of our sin and our carnal nature that from time to time rises up in us, that we are not worthy.
It would be wonderful if, when we come to God, we could be born a fully mature Son of God, but that just does not happen. God wants to transform us into what He is, and that is a long process. The religious ones look at the little babies and say, "Look at them, they call themselves Christians and they do all kinds of things that they shouldn’t. They must not be born again." To them, being a Christian is a matter of conduct, of being right and doing right. They do not realize that they need to feed the babies, not condemn them. So precious few ever realize that to change the outward conduct only makes them a better person in the natural. No matter how good you are, it does not give you an entrance into the Kingdom of God. I have witnessed, time and time again, that it is much harder for a good person to enter into the realm of the Kingdom than a bad person. A good person has a hard time recognizing their need for God. If you have followed these messages on Coming Out of Darkness from the beginning, you know it doesn’t matter how good or how bad you are, you still need God to be able to live the Kingdom life. God takes natural men both, good and bad, and transforms them into Sons of God. This is the good news of the gospel. Living in the Kingdom of God has absolutely nothing to do with the natural man.
We are not fully transformed yet. There are times when our flesh will get the best of us. There are still times when we say no to the prompting of the Spirit. If you are 95% transformed in the spirit and still have 5% carnality, that 5% will rise up and get the best of you at times. If you do not understand that, you will always be condemned. If you think that because you have been a Christian for 20 years you should not have any carnality, you will always condemn yourself, rather than recognizing it as the flesh and looking away to the sin offering and accepting forgiveness. Again, the penalty for our sin was paid at Calvary. That is why Jesus died and that offering was for all of humanity. He died so that you could find your way back to God. This is according to God’s plan and purpose, which is "every man in his own order". God will bring you into the fullness of His plan for your life.
Even though God will bring you fully into His purpose for your life, you still have a part to play in it. That is why it is "every man in his own order". Our actions and responses to God affect our lives, whether for good or bad. The more that we hunger and seek after God, the quicker He can work His will in our lives. If we are not willing, we need to ask Him to make us willing. It is going to take ages for some to submit fully to God’s working in their lives. The choices that we make do play a part in God’s working in our lives. However, we must also understand that it is not a matter of the flesh. We know that the things we do in the flesh do not please God, but we cannot just lay back and do nothing, thinking that God will do it all. The key is that we must seek God. Don’t try to perfect yourself in the flesh, but every day of your life, seek after God. Learn to worship Him and fall in love with Him.
There have been periods in my life when I would get so discouraged and downcast that I would lose hunger for God. I have gone for periods when I wouldn’t read the Bible and I wouldn’t pray much, but I never quit being honest with God. I used to drive to a place in my car or find a place in my home every day where I would just talk to God. I have said to God many times, "I do not have the hunger anymore, please help me." I believe that is how I found the strength to keep going on. Most Christians never get beyond the stage of a little child because of condemnation. It is OK to be a child, and you will always be a spiritual child until you realize that it is OK to be where you are today. It does not matter what your problems or hang-ups are. What matters is that you have your eyes unveiled to the fact that the price for your redemption was fully paid. You need to go to God and ask Him to reveal the depths of Calvary to you. You need your understanding opened to the fact that there will come a day when you will fully reveal and manifest His glory to the world, because that is why you were created. You do have a part to play in this. Your choices can deter His will but they will not stop it. Don’t let anyone tell you that you are a puppet on a string. God does have it all worked out, but how long will you wait before going to Him and trusting Him to do in you what you cannot do in the flesh? I have been saying for years that Christians will do everything except take the time to sit quietly in His presence, because they are so busy. If you do not spend time with God, no matter how many good works you do, it does not matter. People may benefit from your good works, but you won’t. You must begin to spend time with God. That is when the veils and the darkness begin to lift off of you. Only God can reveal to you the depths of His love. His love is not a doctrine; it must be experienced.
As Christians, we should not know one another according to the flesh, but according to the spirit. There are Christians who have been Christians for many years and are still babies because they have not known these truths. Let’s not condemn the babies, let’s feed them the riches of redemption to release them from condemnation so they can grow.
Young Men
"I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the wicked one. I have written unto you, young men, because ye are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the wicked one" (1 Jn. 2:13-14).
The Word of God abiding in you is much more than just memorizing the words of the Bible. Years ago, I had entire chapters of the Bible committed to memory without much experience of the Word operating in my life. When the Word of God abides in you, it becomes a part of your being. It becomes the Word again made flesh. It is the living and abiding Word working in you that enables you to live godly and overcome the wicked one. As the Word begins to operate in you, you begin, in small ways at first, to think and speak according to the principles of the Word and begin to see change take place in your life. Whenever we speak from our spirit the words of God that abide in us, those words have just as much value as the words spoken from the lips of Jesus. This is not the name it and claim it doctrine. Many people try to use positive confession and thinking, trying to manipulate God to do what they want. Most of them do not realize what they are doing, but this is the case. Whenever you take the written Word of God that He spoke to someone else long ago and use that as positive confession you are not abiding in the Word. However, if you are reading the Bible and God speaks it again to you and it becomes a living thing to you, then you can speak it in true faith and assurance that what you speak will come to pass. The key to speaking the Word is to only speak what God has spoken to you.
An Example of Acting on the Spoken Word
I will never forget a few years ago a former pastor of ours rose one Sunday morning and in his prayer time God spoke to Him and said, "Joe is going to walk today." Joe had been in a wheelchair for quite awhile unable to walk. In church that morning, the pastor went up to Joe and said, "God spoke to me today and said you were going to walk, so get up." Joe just looked at him and said "I can’t do it" but the pastor said, "God said you were going to walk, so get up." Still Joe just shook his head no and said he could not get up. Then the pastor spoke to two ushers and said, "Get Joe out of his chair." They pulled Joe out of his chair and the pastor said, "Make him walk." The ushers dragged him back and forth across the front of the church with the pastor saying, "In the name of Jesus you will walk," over and over for about ten minutes. By this time everyone in the church was thinking the pastor had missed God, but he just kept on saying "Walk." All at once, as the ushers were dragging this man across the church, strength came into his legs and he began to stand on his feet and walk alone. Well, you can imagine the praises that ascended to God that morning. This is the only way true miracles happen in ministry. You cannot just read in the Bible that God heals people and then start speaking the Word to everyone you see that is sick. Don’t misunderstand me, I am not saying you shouldn’t pray for the sick, you should. If God doesn’t give you a Word for a miracle, pray for them but don’t make a fool of yourself and do disgrace to the Spirit of God by speaking a word of healing to someone and it not happening. You won’t have to make excuses why the person did not get healed like, "You just didn’t have enough faith. I spoke the Word but you did not believe." There is so much of that kind of trash in the church which just brings condemnation on people because you were not acting out of faith. Joe did not have faith to be healed, but God had spoken to the pastor, and what God speaks to you, HE will do.
An Example of Speaking a
Word You Haven’t Heard
A few years ago, I saw one of the leading "Word of Faith" teachers line up about 15 wheelchair patients and begin to speak the "Word of Faith" to them to rise up and walk. When nothing happened, he began to exhort them to try to move their legs and he began to pull them from their chairs. They began to fall on the floor, still being exhorted to put their faith to work and begin to walk. They were squirming around on the floor desperately trying to believe and be healed. I will never forget that pitiful sight as long as I live. Not a one of them received the ability to walk. This took place on nationwide television. What a disgrace to the miracle-working power of God. People of God are doing the same thing across the world today, speaking a word that was given to someone else two thousand years ago, and nothing is happening. They are speaking for healing, cars, lands and prosperity, thinking they are rich in the Word and faith, not knowing they are miserable, blind, wretched, poor and naked. Jesus said, "I do only those things I see my Father do," not those things I read in the Old Testament. Jesus told his disciples to heal the sick and cast out devils and they had a marvelous ministry. If He says to you to do the same, then when you speak a Word of healing, healing is what will take place. I know I can be misunderstood here, but you must hear the spirit in these words. If we will take the time to sit in God’s presence, He will begin to speak to us, and then when we do speak the Word it will come to pass. I am not against the "Word of Faith" teaching. It is just that you must hear God yourself and then live, act, speak, and do that which He speaks. When I become full of the Word of God as a living reality, as I begin to hear God speak to me in my daily life, then I take that which He has spoken to me and I speak, and I live, and I center everything around that which God has spoken to me. I become that which I speak. Again, this is the experience of the Word becoming flesh.
"As a man thinks in his heart so is he" (Prov. 23:7). Jesus said, "Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks" (Luke 6:45). Whatever you think in your heart, you will speak out of your mouth, and the creative words that you speak bring to you your experience of tomorrow. The words that you speak can be very powerful. They can work for you either positively or negatively. We must, by the grace of God, have revealed to us the heart that we were given at the new birth.
You Have Overcome the Wicked One
When we hear a word like this, we can immediately interpret it with the natural mind and think of the devil out there somewhere. The devil outside of you is not the problem. Jesus took care of him at the cross. The Word says, "And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross" (Col. 2:15, NIV). One who has realized the power of the cross and has had their mind renewed to see that the devil is not the problem is on the way to a great spiritual awakening. The devil on the outside of us has been defeated. We have been taught so much the power of the devil that we believe in it and that is what gives it the power. The devil we need to overcome is that carnal mind that was received by the Fall. The wicked one is that rebellion, that consciousness we received at the Fall. It is that consciousness we have of being separate and alienated from God. The flesh, the carnal man, is the wicked one we need to overcome. If the Word abides in you, and you become the Word, then you have overcome the wicked one.
This, of course, is a matter of transformation. Your growth from a little child to a young man is a long process. I believe God is speeding up the process in these days, because we are very close to God bringing "many sons into glory" (Heb 2:10). We are very close to God removing the veil cast over all nations (Isa 25:7). The covering cast over America is most deceiving. We are in the darkness and covering of religion disguising itself as Christianity. The system of Christianity is included in that "wicked one" that we must overcome. How many people realize that this beautiful, full of good works, system is a part of BABYLON the mother of HARLOTS spoken of in The Revelation chapter 17? Larry & Betty Hodges, in their publication, The Shofar Letters, issue 2, 1997, say:
Some are loathe to leave the stain-glassed cathedrals, the pews and pulpits, the hirelings and hierarchies, the Sunday morning meeting at 10:00 A.M., three songs, an offering and 30 minutes of freeze-dried prepackaged pabulum, and have therefore, in many cases, chosen these very things over the Lord Himself. They do so because they have been made drunk with the wine of the fornication of harlotries. Although espoused to the Lord, their hearts have gone after other lovers. Men who would never be caught dead in a real brothel think nothing of frequenting spiritual houses of ill-repute for the same reasons, though spiritual.
Before I continue further, let me make it clear that I am not referring here to those who are still in need of keeping the feast of Pentecost; who still very much need to gather together with others of like precious faith, or of those who come together in the Spirit. I am referring to those who remain in Babylon and refuse to leave it, or its ways, customs, rituals, or ceremonies.
Lest you misunderstand who Babylon is, it is all the religious systems, groups, denominations and non-denominational denominations, including Charismatic, Pentecostal, and some home-meetings. It is that which bears the stamp and spirit of the Mother of Harlots and Abominations of the Earth! It is Things, men, movements, institutions, organizations, etc. which draw the multitudes after themselves and attach the crowds to themselves. It is the principle of Anti-christ; that which definitely supplants, or intends to supplant Christ. It is an alternative to the whole Christ in man-made Christianity; an imitation life borne and carried on by it’s own momentum. (The Shofar Letters, Larry and Betty Hodges, P.O. Box 728, Linwood, NC 27299)
We Must Overcome Bigotry
Someone asked me a short time ago, "Why is it that most of God’s people get angry when they are told about the possibility of God saving everyone?" In the Old Testament, the Jews thought that they were the only people of God on the earth. The Jews were very bigoted. When Jesus came they were so sure that the gospel He brought was only for them. They would never have gone to the Gentiles with the gospel. Peter had to have a vision from God to convince him to take the gospel to the Gentiles. Acts tells us, "On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour. And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance, and saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth: wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air. And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat. But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean. And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common" (Acts 10:9-15).
We can see by these verses that God no longer calls any man unclean. In this vision, He was telling Peter that God has cleansed everyone and He is not a bigot. His love and His redemption are for the world, not just a select group of people. He does call a select group out of the world to dispense Himself into them so that they can go to the world and bring them the word of reconciliation. Christians are the most bigoted group of people on the earth today. Christians get upset with me when they hear me talk about God being the Father of all and redeeming all and being able to save someone who does not know about Jesus. Even those who claim to know Jesus fight among themselves. Even within their own denominations they argue over doctrinal differences. The Baptists are divided over baptism. The Lutherans are divided amongst themselves. The Pentecostals are divided. These religions are all divided because of man’s carnal interpretation of the Bible. Anyone who sees the oneness of Christ and the Church could never be a part of that HARLOT system. Revelation 17:3 says that she is "full of names of blasphemy". We should not call ourselves anything. Not Baptist, Catholic, Pentecostal or anything else. Paul told the Corinthians, "And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able. For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men? For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?" (1 Cor. 3:1-4). How could the Word be more plain? Jesus Himself said in Matthew 12:25, "A house divided against itself cannot stand." The Institutional Church could never be a testimony to God because of the division among her. We must drop all bigotry and division. God is our Father and we are one family. You may be a Catholic or Pentecostal, but regardless of your affiliation, you are my brother and I love you and will minister to you.
Our Oneness Is in His Life
Our oneness is in His life, not in our doctrines or carnal knowledge. A doctrine, no matter how good or correct it is, should never be used to divide the people of God. The Apostle Paul said, "Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ: That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive" (Eph. 4:13-14). A doctrine held in esteem above fellowship with another person is a wind that will carry you away from Christ. There is a people on the earth today who are coming into the unity of the faith, and they see the futility of the organized church with its forms, programs and rituals. They are not, as some suppose, "forsaking the assembling of themselves together". They are coming out of Babylon and becoming a chaste virgin unto Christ. These are not sectarian or exclusive. They realize there are precious saints of God in all denominations and groups, but they themselves cannot any longer partake of the HARLOT system that keeps people in bondage. God’s people are beginning to realize that they have one life and one nature. Jesus prayed, in John, chapter 17, verses 11,20-23, "And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through Thine own name those whom Thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are. Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; that they all may be one; as Thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that Thou hast sent me. And the glory which Thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: I in them, and Thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that Thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me."
This, very simply stated by Jesus, is the basis of our oneness. It is not what we intellectually believe, it is not the church you go to or the physical ground you meet on. Our oneness is His life in each of us. The Christ in me is the same Christ that is in you and Christ is not divided. The Christ in me loves and ministers to the world regardless of their condition in life. If I will not fellowship with you because you have different beliefs than mine, then my doctrines are IDOLS that need to be torn down. The Protestants talk about the Catholics bowing down to idols and images of saints, but they bow down and worship their own doctrines. They are, as Paul said, "Little children, tossed about with the winds of doctrine." Jesus is calling out a people and teaching them by His Spirit and they will one day stand on the earth as one new man. The world will then know that Jesus was sent of God and that He loves them. The sons of God will minister to the world the love of the Father and all bigotry will be put down. Hallelujah!
Fathers
"I write unto you, Fathers, because ye have known Him that is from the beginning" (1 Jn. 2:13).
John repeats the above sentence twice. The Fathers know Him that is from the beginning. Their understanding of God goes way beyond the comprehension of Christianity. When you know God as Father, you realize that you came out of His substance. Adam is your Father according to the flesh, but God is your Father according to the spirit.
"Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?" (Heb. 12:9).
"And they fell upon their faces, and said, O God, the God of the spirits of all flesh, shall one man sin, and wilt thou be wroth with all the congregation?" (Num. 16:22).
"Let the LORD, the God of the spirits of all flesh, set a man over the congregation" (Num. 27:16).
"The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him" (Zech. 12:1).
God is spirit and He is our Father. All mankind have a spirit. "He that is joined to the Lord is one spirit" (1 Cor. 6:17).
God is the God of your spirit, not your flesh. This is one reason that all men are included in redemption. Your spirit was brought forth from the very substance of God. In your spirit, you and God are one. If you learn how to live and function from your spirit, then God is once again manifested in humanity.
There will come a day in your spiritual growth when you will become a spiritual Father. A Father is one who is a mature believer who carries the presence of God within him. He will reproduce God’s life, God’s will, and His glory in others. A Father in the natural is one who reproduces human life. A Father in the spirit reproduces spiritual life. Jesus said, "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life" (John 6:63). When we learn to speak from our spirit the words of God, then our words also become spirit and life. We can impart life to others by our speaking. True ministry imparts life and builds up the saints. "Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men: Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart" (2 Cor. 3:2-3).
To become a Father means that God’s life has swallowed up the carnal life and you are now a representative of Him on the earth. It is no longer I who live but Christ who lives in me.
Another way to share the three stages of spiritual growth is:


1. God to you
2. God in you
3. God as you

As God to you, you understand that God came to man. He came to you to redeem you and restore you back to fellowship with your Father. He came not just to the Jews, not just to the Christians, but he came to the world. God to you is the first revelation in the mystery of God. Every man has a spirit, the substance of God. And God came to you to quicken and regenerate your spirit, so that you could once again have fellowship and commune with Him. As we have seen, Adam sold the human race into sin and death and Christ came to us with redemption. "For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive" (1 Cor. 15:21-22).
God to you means that God is for you. No matter how much sin I am in, no matter how many times I fall and fail God, He comes to me every day with the offer of pardon and redemption. I must state again that it is not our fault that we are in Adam. Has anybody ever told you that when you sin it is not your fault? The nature of Adam is to sin, That is why God is to you. You need to understand that God paid the price for every act of disobedience and transgression so that He could reconcile you to Himself. "God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation" (2 Cor. 5:19). These verses tell us that God in Christ comes to you realizing that you are not responsible for the condition you are in, so it is not your fault. You are a product of Adam’s fall. God, willing to show His love, sacrificed Himself on the cross so you would understand that He knows that you can’t in your fallen condition help yourself, so He came to help you. He came to be the reconciler that would reconcile you back to God. When Adam and Eve fell, God wasn’t mad at them; He had already made provision for their redemption. Their redemption was based on God’s choice, not on their choice. There are people who have never heard the gospel, but that does not stop God’s provision from working for their good. Eventually God’s redemption will be realized fully in them. That is God to you.
God In You
When you realize that God is to you and you begin to seek Him and come into a deeper understanding, and begin to hunger and thirst after Him, you then begin to realize God is in you. Paul told us that our hope is "CHRIST IN YOU" (Col. 1:27). Our hope is not in a "rapture" that will automatically change us into Christ’s likeness. That is a fairy tale and a fallacy. The only hope we have is Christ in us. Because He is in us, that is our hope of glory. If Christ is truly in you and you are not experiencing Him, even though He is in you, it is, at least in this present time, doing you no good. Knowing it intellectually is not enough. All Christians know God came to them to save them, but most never experience God in them to deliver them from a life of self. We have people in churches around the world who say they are born again but never experience God in them to deliver them. God wants not only to come to you with redemption, but He wants you to realize that He can live in you, instead of you. I was a Christian for years before I experienced Christ in me. I knew intellectually and was taught that Jesus was in me, but I had no experience of His living through me. I experienced God’s love and forgiveness, but I didn’t know He could live His life in me. God in me is a marvelous revelation. That’s the "young man" that John talks about. God in us with His ability and creative Word to change us and the very atmosphere in which we live. That is God in us and that is wonderful. However, when you experience God in you, you still have the flesh to deal with. So yes, God is in me, but the self-life still raises up so there is a certain amount of warfare we must do, not with the devil, but with self. There are Christians who have spent years fighting the devil and trying to pull down strongholds, when they themselves are still little children in the spirit.
What we need to deal with is not the devil outside of us, but the spirit of antichrist that is in our flesh. Some get upset when I say that Christians have a spirit of antichrist, but nevertheless, that is the case. Has God ever asked you to do something and your flesh said NO? That is antichrist. Anything in you that is against the workings of God is antichrist. In the mass of humanity, both Christian and non-Christian, the antichrist is at this present time ruling and reigning in a people. Christianity is looking for this man to come in an outward way, when all the time he is working and growing in their flesh and they do not recognize it. Our carnal nature is permeated with the antichrist spirit. Most Christians are in the darkness and do not understand the very basic things of God because of the antichrist nature that is in their flesh.
The experience of God in you is the first step in learning how to deal with that antichrist nature that is in us. You should never be condemned for this. You have inherited the antichrist spirit. You did not do anything to cause you to be this way. Everyone is born with this nature.
There are only two men growing on the earth today: Adam and Christ. (We will deal with this more in another chapter of Coming Out of Darkness.) These two men are growing on the earth at the same time. There is a mass of humanity that is growing within them the antichrist spirit. I know this is hard for some to accept, but you can be a Christian, go to church, read your Bible, give a tithe to the church, be full of good works, and still be growing the antichrist within you. This antichrist is not always easy to identify. The Revelation calls this spirit "MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH" (Rev. 17:5). A mystery is not always easy to figure out. Babylon means confusion. I do not know of a more confused group of people of the earth today than the people of Christianity. This is not the fault of the people. Our leaders have taught us confusion for years. We have some of the most popular ministries of our day winning people to Jesus, telling them after they are saved to "Go to the church of your choice. If you want to be a Catholic go to the Catholic Church. If you want to be a Lutheran go to the Lutheran Church." This is confusion! God is redeeming people and calling them out of confusion, not bringing them to Him and putting them in it. Christians need to realize that antichrist can and is growing in the Christian system.
I am not against the Catholics, Lutherans, or any other people. I will go to a Catholic or any other church to minister to the people, but I will not and cannot support that ungodly antichrist system. That system is absolutely robbing God’s people of their heritage. There are two mysteries in the book of The Revelation and they are both growing at the same time. They are both growing within us, and one of them is going to overcome the other. This is why I say that the choices you make are very important. The choices that you make will either feed the antichrist carnal nature within you or will feed the spirit of the living God that is within you. People quote scriptures like "I can do all things through Christ" (Phi. 4:13). No you can’t, if you are a carnal Christian. But if the Spirit of God begins to grow in you and begins to swallow up that carnal nature, then you can be like the Apostle Paul and say, "I can do all things through Christ." Please don’t take a spiritual baby and put that burden on them when you yourself can’t do it.
There are two men coming into maturity: Adam and Christ; the antichrist spirit and the Bride. We can be a part of the Bride. God is calling out a people in this present time for His end-time purpose. I understand the strong pull of the flesh. The flesh cannot perfect the flesh, but we can choose to seek the Lord for grace to help in overcoming the antichrist spirit. If you choose to do something, it doesn’t mean that you necessarily have the ability to do it. You are just going to make the right choice. Just start making the right choices. If your flesh rises up and overcomes that choice, don’t fall under condemnation. When a baby is learning how to walk and he falls, he doesn’t just lay there and get discouraged and say, "I’m never going to try again." He just gets up and tries it again and again. This is what I call exercising your spirit. A natural baby keeps exercising his legs until he is able to stand and walk alone. If you will continue to make the right choices, looking away unto Jesus for your help, and keep exercising your spirit, eventually your spirit will become strong and you will grow into that "young man". "I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the wicked one."
We need Christians who understand these principles and can minister them to the Body and help them grow. It doesn’t matter how many times we fall and miss the mark. Just keep making the right choices and keep seeking God until He grows in you. "For he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him" (Heb. 11:6).
Anything in you that is saying no to God is antichrist. That could be anger, resentment, bitterness or anything else that is not godly. Some people think they have been good Christians all their lives, and then something happens that they don’t understand, and they get mad at God. When you get angry with God, you have a serious problem and do not know the heart of your Father. You get angry with Him because of circumstances beyond your control. That is an antichrist spirit. We need Christians who will be honest with God and take responsibility for their actions. Just be honest and come to the light, don’t run away from it.
God As You
As little children, we realize that God is to us. As young men, we realize God is in us. Then we begin to experience God as us. All three of these stages are progressive. The Spirit of the Lord changes us from glory to glory. As a little child, we can experience something of the Father’s reproducing life. Unlike natural babies, spiritual babies can reproduce spiritual babies. In fact, you can and will reproduce what you are. However, when you begin to mature and become a Father, you will be able to impart life to the babies that will help them grow into children, and then young men, and eventually, Fathers.
I can’t tell you a whole lot about being a Father because I haven’t experienced a lot, but I can tell you what it is. It is no longer just God to you or God in you, but it is God as you. This does not mean that your human carnal nature is God. This does not mean that Gary Sigler is God. What it means is that God’s Spirit in my spirit has totally swallowed my carnal nature. I am now as He is. I and my Father are one. The Apostle Paul experienced this, he said, "I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me" (Gal. 2:20). This is what will produce the glorious Church. A group of people who no longer live in themselves. Their carnal life has been swallowed up in the victorious, transcendent, resurrected life of Jesus Christ. It is no longer just God in His people but God as His people. I have experienced at times being so caught up in the Spirit of God that I have known that it was God appearing as me. That is what tabernacles is all about. "For ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people" (2 Cor. 6:16). What a wonderful revelation, God to you, God in you and then God as you.
I feel I must clarify again that I am not speaking according to the natural. This natural person that I am, Gary Sigler, and the natural person that you are, is only good for one thing. He must decrease and go into death until he no longer rises up to take control. Whenever self rises up and says, "I am God," that is an abomination. You hear this in the New Age movement, people saying, "I am God." That is "THE ABOMINATION" spoken of by the prophet Daniel. Whenever self sits in the temple of God, declaring himself to be God, that is the abomination of desolation and that is the antichrist. However, whenever the self is totally consumed by the Spirit of God, you can say it is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. It is no longer just God in me but God as me, that is God’s revelation and mystery revealed.
The antichrist spirit that controls your carnal nature has the ability to reproduce in your soul a counterfeit of what God wants to do through His Spirit in your spirit. Declaring yourself to be God is a counterfeit. We know there has to be a reality for that to be a counterfeit. The antichrist is not some man that is going to someday go sit in a temple in Jerusalem and declare himself as God. We are the temples of God. Listen again, whenever your self, your carnal nature, sits in the temple of God and is ruling your life, that is the abomination of desolation that is saying no to God. That is the antichrist spirit sitting in the temple of God.
About ten years ago I was the studying the antichrist and rapture doctrines. I was seeking God about how we were to know this man called antichrist. God very clearly spoke to me and said, "YOU ARE THE ANTICHRIST." There may come a man someday who claims to be Christ. That has happened many times already. There are multitudes of Christians sitting around waiting for a man to come, thinking that the antichrist is all outside of themselves. This is a great deception. Paul warned the believers that in the last days (and according to the Word, we have been in the last days ever since the crucifixion of Jesus), "some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils" (1 Tim. 4:1). We have been seduced for years by Christianity. We have been taught that our problem is the devil, when all the time the devil was not our problem. We have been taught to fight spirits in the airwaves. We think the problem is with the government, or the coming antichrist, or any number of things. We were never taught that the problem was not outside of us, but in us. The real problem lies hidden within us. Our problem is not the environment, it’s not who your parents are, the problem is the heart of man. The Word says, "whenever the heart shall turn to the Lord the veils shall be taken away" (2 Cor. 3:16). Why are the veils so dark and thick in America? Because most in Christianity are not seeking God and turning their hearts to Him. They are being religious and going to church and doing lots of activities, but very little seeking of His will for their lives. Don’t deceive yourself into thinking you have a heart for God if you don’t want to be conformed into His image, if you won’t take some time out of your day to seek Him and to know Him. A lot of the condition of Christians is due to the confusion that is taught. If you have a heart for God and you don’t understand that you need only to seek Him, that heart will get you into a lot of religious activity. You will be hungry for fellowship, so you may go to church and be taught ignorance. In the pulpits across America, you can go to church and learn ignorance.
An Example of Ignorance Being Taught
I was listening to Christian radio the other day, and there was a pastor teaching ignorance. If I mentioned his name, almost everyone would recognize him. He is one of the most listened to preachers on the radio today. He has a church of several thousand members in California. This man was saying that in the beginning the church was in so much darkness and sin was so prevailing that they needed Apostles and Prophets and the miracle-working power of God to get the church started. However, after John penned the last words in The Revelation, God’s revelation was complete, the book was shut, and God no longer needed to perform miracles. He said, "Miracles passed away with the apostolic age." He said that the Apostles, Prophets and the gifts of the Spirit were no longer needed and they had passed away. This man is teaching his people ignorance and sowing darkness and blindness over their eyes so that they cannot experience the reality of God for themselves. There is no way those people, if they believe what their pastor is saying, could receive a message from God. He has cast a veil over them, so they cannot see the truth. This is why I say that Christianity is the deception, and the seducing spirits and doctrines of devils that keep people in darkness and bondage. You can go into Catholic churches, Pentecostal, Nazarene, Lutheran, Baptist or any other church and be taught ignorance that will keep you in darkness. WAKE UP, CHURCH OF THE LIVING GOD, AND SHAKE YOURSELF! "Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light" (Eph. 5:14).
If you have a heart that only hungers after God, He said, "Anyone who comes to me" (not to the system of Christianity), "I will in no wise cast out" (John 6:37). All you have to do is say "God I want you and I want to know the truth." Ask Him to grant you a heart that seeks only Him. We need to drop all of religion and turn to Him for a fresh revelation that will give us hope and inspiration.
God to me—little children, God in me—young men, God as me—a Father. When we have these realities revealed in us we will be able to bring reconciliation and restoration to all of God’s creation. When God fills us and saturates us and we become a Father, we won’t have to wonder what His will is, because we will become His perfect will on the earth.

Monday, December 24, 2007

Coming Into The Light Part 2 by Gary Sigler


Entering Into Tabernacles

What I’m seeing more than anything else in these days is that there is coming such a change and such a transformation of our mindset. We’ve heard a lot about the three Feasts, and we all know that God’s final plan or destination for us is that all of us would be brought into the realm where we can live, move, and have our being in the Holy of Holies. But for that to happen, there are so many things in our minds and in our belief systems that have to be changed.
Now I know many of us are excited and think we have it made because we’ve come a long way. We are not in the old religious system anymore, we’re not in an old, cold, dead move of God anymore, but there is still so much of the Adamic mindset that we carry, and before we can walk from the realm of Pentecost, the realm of the Holy Place, into the Holiest of Holies, everything of the Adamic mindset has to fall by the wayside. You cannot become the presence of God on the earth and have Adam alive. I almost said you can’t come into the presence, but we have to enter the presence of God for the change that must take place. To become the presence of God on the earth, to become a dwelling place where God absolutely, totally swallows you up, all of the human belief systems must fall away outside of the Holiest of Holies. The reason that we are not fully walking in and listening to our infallible guidance system (the Holy Spirit) is that we are still clinging to the old human beliefs and limitations and religious precepts and concepts.
There was a time a few years ago when I was in the deliverance ministry, and I saw demons everywhere. I can’t tell you how many people I cast demons out of. Everywhere I went I faced demons. But listen, once you cross the threshold from the Holy Place and you enter in to the Holy of Holies, there is nothing there but God, absolutely nothing. And in reality, in the realm of spiritual truth, that is the truth. There is nothing but God! There is no more Adam to pull you down. There are no more devils who can defeat you. When you begin to enter into that realm, there is absolutely nothing that can hinder you or can stop you in any way from being able to do that which God has called you to do. But I’ll tell you, everything of the carnal natural mindset has to stay outside, it cannot enter into the Holy of Holies. You cannot enter into the Holy of Holies and look with the eyes of God and see evil. You can’t do it! God’s eyes are too wonderful to behold evil. In the realm of Pentecost, in the realm of the Holy Place, in the realm where it was me and God, we saw so many other things. We see all of the evil in the world, we get into that action/reaction thing where you say something to me and I react to you, and the next thing we have is a world war. But once you enter into Tabernacles and you begin to see with the eyes of God, behold, all things are complete.
Brother Eby (PO Box 371240, El Paso, TX 79937) spoke in Alamogordo last July and his message was, "It is finished!" There is absolutely nothing that needs to be added to Christ, nothing. We have been so centered on our condition in the natural that it absolutely hinders us from entering into the land where there is nothing but God. Whatever you put your attention on, whatever you focus on, will be attracted to you. Years ago, I was focusing on my inabilities and focusing on my shortcomings and focusing on my habits and focusing on those things in my life that were not of God. I couldn’t get away from them, they were all I could see, and the more I focused on them, the worse I became.
But then God opened my eyes and began to reveal to me that there is another realm. He said, "Come up just a little bit higher. Right now things are pretty good where you’re at, Gary. You’re in a place that’s not a bad place. You experience My overcoming life, you experience casting out demons, you experience a certain amount of victory, but you still have double vision. You still see yourself as two beings, you see yourself on one hand as Adam, but on the other hand you experience My life in you. So come up a little bit higher." In the Tabernacles realm, the Holy of Holies, there is nothing but God. There is the Ark representing Christ, and in the Ark are the tables of stone representing not the law of God, but the character of God.
When you begin to enter into Tabernacles, what we considered the Ten Commandments become the Ten Promises. Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul and with all thy mind. Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. When you begin to enter into the realm of Tabernacles, you begin to look through the eyes of your Creator, and everywhere you look, you behold His creation. Many years before I personally experienced this, when I was still in a lot of bondage to the flesh, God said to me, "Gary, I do not look at where you are today, My eyes are too holy to behold evil. I do not see anything but the loveliness and the beauty of My life that I have placed within you." If you can believe that and if you will focus on that, you will begin to walk into the Holy of Holies. Whatever you focus on, whatever you put your attention on, is what you will become.

You Are Spirit
A verse I’ve been sharing over and over wherever I go is Zechariah 12:1. It says that the Lord stretched forth the heavens, laid the foundation of the earth, and formed the spirit in man. When I first saw that verse, it was like explosions going off inside of me. The Lord spoke within me and said, "This is the creation story. I formed the heavens, formed the earth, and then formed the spirit in man."
In John 4:24, Jesus said, "God is spirit." God formed you a spirit. You came out of the very substance of what He is. Adam can’t comprehend that, because in our natural human Adamic life, the natural understanding cannot comprehend the things of God. We know experientially that there is no way we could take our carnal, Adamic nature and make it good. We can dress it up, we can make it look good, and if we have a good character and good strong self-will, we can stop sinning, but it’s still Adam, it’s still the nature of good and evil. You have to understand that God formed you a spirit before you ever became an Adamite. We are returning back to what we were really created to be. Your eyes are being unveiled to see that you are not a carnal human being, you are a spirit.
Paul told the Corinthians that you (the Church) are the Christ. Well, what does that mean? We know that the word "Christ" means "anointed". We are God’s anointed on the earth. I’m not Adam and you are not Adam. We are God’s Christ upon the earth. That’s hard for some to hear, and there’s a lot of confusion when that is heard. I think we are hearing it wrong. People are not saying, "I am God," but what we are saying and what people are beginning to realize is that Adam (their Adamic nature) is a human. Why is he a human? Because he had a natural father who gave him birth.
We inherit from our natural fathers, all the way back to the original Adam, everything that we are in the natural. We are human because we have life in a human nature. Religion has done nothing more than to try to teach and to make the human man godly. Whenever the human man, Adam, stands in the temple of God declaring himself to be God, that’s the abomination of desolation. So we’re not saying, "I am God," but we’re saying this: Just as I am human and I inherited my human Adamic life from my earthly father, so now I recognize that my father is God. So what does that make me? Not only is He my father, I was created out of the very substance that He is. So therefore, in reality, if I am living in the Adamic nature, I am living in a mistaken identity. I don’t know who I am, I don’t know where I came from, and I don’t know where I am going. And so I keep trying with the help of religion to make Adam better so he can someday enter into the Kingdom or die and go to heaven, rather than simply realizing that I am not Adam, I am spirit.
This is so scriptural, there are loads of scriptures concerning this. Paul said that Christ was the fullness of God, and he said (speaking to the Church), "You are complete in Him" (Col. 2:9-10). If something is complete, it doesn’t need any more work. What’s happening to us is that we are realizing that the work is finished, and now comes the unveiling. If you don’t realize that the work is finished, you’ll keep trying to make Adam better. The work that God has done in us is complete, and Paul told the Ephesians that the Church is the fullness of Him Who fills everything everywhere with Himself (Eph. 1:23). You are the fullness of Him. But who is he speaking to? Not Gary Sigler in the sense of the Adamic life and nature. He is speaking to Gary according to the Spirit, because my true identity is spirit.
As a spiritual being, I have all the attributes, all the characteristics, of my father. Therefore, everywhere I go, I manifest what He is. If I truly understand and begin to live according to spirit, I don’t have to try to be godly. There isn’t one day of my life when I wake up and think that I have to live some special way. I just get up and I just am, because I realize that I am not Adam, I am Christ on the earth. You can’t get out of Adam until you realize that you are spirit and that you are complete in Him. There is nothing you need to add to Him, you just need to be unveiled.
Most people know about a man by the name of Michelangelo who was one of the most famous sculptors who ever lived. He would take a block of marble and from that marble he would produce a statue that became world renowned. When they asked him how he did it, he said, "When that block of marble is in front of me, David is already there. I just chip off the part that’s not supposed to be there."
That’s what God is doing to us. For years, we were taught that we had to die to the flesh, and we tried. If you want to know the truth, you can only get life out of life. Jesus said, "I am come that you might have life" (John 10:10). It’s the life in you that pushes out death. If you never experience life, you can’t get rid of your death. But if you receive life, then it is said, "Even when you were dead in your sins and trespasses, you were made alive" (Rom. 6). There are multitudes of people out there who, in the eyes of their own senses, are dead to God. Totally dead men have no awareness of God. But he said, "Even when you were dead in sins, you were made alive." That’s the message we need to take to the world. I don’t think anyone needs to be told any longer how sinful they are. But they do need to have revealed to them what their true identity is.
God created you spirit. Remember the parable of the tares and the wheat? God sowed some precious seed in the ground. Well, what are we? We were formed from the dust of the earth, and God sowed some precious, precious seed in His ground. Then the enemy came and sowed some tares. You see, we’ve always had an outward vision, and we’ve always thought that tares were the evil, horrible, unsaved people, and we were the wheat. But we were the field that God sowed His lovely, precious essence of His spirit in. Then along came the enemy with the Adamic life. And so for many, many years, through generations and generations, both the wheat and the tares have been growing in the earth. Today is the time of harvest when the tares will be gathered into bundles and burned. Do you feel any heat in these days? It’s a wonderful analogy when you realize that the flaming sword was only to keep Adam out, the flesh, the carnal mind, the carnal man. And so today God is just unveiling us. Relax! Many, many changes begin to take place in your life when you begin to enter into Tabernacles.
God says, "Come up higher, I want you to enter into a realm where there is no death, no demons, no sickness and disease. I want you to begin to enter into this place where there is nothing but God." When you begin to enter into that place, your life changes so drastically that, at times, you feel like you’re backsliding. This happens because not only do you lose the bad Adam, you lose the good Adam.

Sowing and Reaping
You can’t imagine how much Adamic, carnal stuff we do in Pentecost. We take something that was written 2000 years ago and tell everybody, you just read it in here and go do it. And we’ve got the craziest teaching about tithing. We are taught today that if you give to my ministry you can reap 100 fold. We’re told that if you want money, if that is your need, then the only thing you can sow is money, because every seed produces after it’s own kind. So if you need money, the only thing you can do is sow money, and it has to be into my ministry. (I never heard any of these guys tell you to sow into somebody else’s ministry. I’m sure some of them do, but I haven’t heard them, and I’ve heard the best.)
But let me tell you what Aaron & Bonnie and Carol & I are doing, we are sowing books. Right now we are sending out around 4000 books every month all over the world. I don’t need any more books. So if that principle was always true, that you reap what you sow, how many books would I have coming back to me? I don’t need books, I need money to produce the books. And so I’m sowing books, and Aaron is sowing books, and Carol is sowing books, and we are not reaping books, we are reaping the finances to produce the books.
Seeing With God’s Eyes
You cannot put God in any kind of a traditional box, He just doesn't fit! Almost everything in Pentecost that we did was such a mixture, and it was so carnal. Our praying was carnal, our worship was carnal. Now I'm not saying it's bad, it's so often just carnal. And I'm not saying we shouldn't do it, it's just that there's a better form of worship than carnal platitudes. So you begin to enter into the realm where God says there is nothing here but Me, the work is complete and there's nothing here to do except what you hear Me speak to you. Try only doing those things that God speaks to you to do. It is not always easy. We generally don't think much about it when we read that Jesus only did those things He saw His Father do and speak what He heard Him say; but when it is required of us, it is sometimes very difficult.
God has severely tested me in this. I've had people come up to me and ask me to pray for them, and I have had to say, "I'm sorry, I can't." For you see, I did not hear a word from my Father to do so, although in my humanity I wanted to pray for them. There have been periods, not forever, mind you, but periods, when God said, "I want you to put down the Bible and I don=t want you to look at it for now." Although the Spirit very often quickens things we read from the Bible, you cannot get life out of a book alone, regardless of its title or worldwide veneration. The book can certainly speak to us when the anointing of the Spirit is joined to it, but we cannot take the Bible and make it a god. As wonderful as that book is, it should never take the place of the living God in our lives.
There is a brother in New Mexico by the name of Elwin Roach, who writes a series called "The Pathfinder" (Box 4004, Alamogordo, NM 88311). Some of his stuff has been such a confirmation to me. I went through fear over some of these things, like of putting down the Bible, even for a season, because I spent a lifetime studying the doctrines and the issues that are in the Word. I=ve studied almost all of the denominations, I have studied on so many different issues, and the letter of the word, coupled with my intellect, like with so many, had at one time become a god to me. However, with His dealings with me, and showing me that without His Spirit, it is all worthless as far as life is concerned. With renewed vision, and Him rising alive from those pages, I find myself in the Bible a lot these days. It has become a New Book to me. Nevertheless, there was a period of time when God was saying to me, "Put it down. You need to get to know Me." Some may find it hard to believe God would say such a thing; but if the Bible takes the place Christ Himself in your life, you may one day hear Him speak similar words to you ; for truly, our God is a jealous God. He will not allow His letter to us, as wonderful as it is, to forever come between Him and you.
Here's something wonderful that Elwin wrote: "Isn't is obvious that the Bible itself is a testimony that man lost his ability to see and hear God? Otherwise there would be no need for it. For if everyone could see and hear God for themselves, why would we need it? Why would we need a letter from Him? If we had unbroken communion, why would the Bible be needed? It wouldn't. For letters are written when people are separated one from the other, not when they are together."
This man has the utmost respect for the Scriptures. If you do not believe me, read some of his material, and you will see the wellspring of life that flows from the Bible into Him, or I should say out of him. Again, Elwin has the utmost respect for the Scriptures, and so do I. But that book is not God. When you enter the realm of Tabernacles, God strips you of everything. No longer do you look out on the world and see good and evil, you begin to see with the eyes of God, and you don't see Christians and Buddhists and Hindus and New Agers and Pentecostals, you see Christ. I do not believe their doctrines which miss the mark of Life is Christ; but I with all sincerity can see the ungerminated Seed of Christ which John said was in every man (John 1:9). Deep in the heart of every man, whether he is kneeling before a statue of Buddha or he is in a Christian church, we should see Christ (not in his rituals, not in his superstitious beliefs, not in his genuflecting to idols, not in his carnal religion). We should peer by the Spirit, that which has lifted us beyond our carnal reasoning and limited vision, and see the seed of God that is buried deep within his human soil. When we can do this, we can then minister to the seed of Christ within that vessel. We can water it and see it bud and come forth like the planting of the Lord Oh my friends, God knows no such thing as bigotry, especially since His Seed resides within every soul, waiting to hear the voice of the Son of God and live.
I was taught as a young Christian that if a Jehovah’s Witness comes to your door, slam the door in his face, because they are most persuasive. And don’t talk to Mormons. But when you enter into the realm of Tabernacles you see nothing but Christ in His creation, and you can see a man kneeling before a Buddhist statue and see Christ in him. The Buddhists need to come out of Buddhism, the Hindus need to come out of Hinduism, and the Christians need to come out of Christianity (the man-made religion). We need to drop everything, and in Tabernacles you do that, you drop everything, and then there’s nothing left but God.
When you walk into that place where there’s only God, and see with His eyes, you weep for the condition of God’s people. They can’t even get along among themselves. The Christians blast the Buddhists and the Hindus and yet, at the same time, the Pentecostals can’t fellowship with the Baptists, and the Baptists can’t fellowship with the Catholics. What is the difference between the Hindu, the New Ager, or the Christian? What is the difference, tell me? They are all lost in the Adamic mind, and they are all trying to get back to God through religion, which is impossible.
We shouldn’t be condemning one another. The Kingdom of God, right now, is being established on the earth. Do you know what that is? Do you know what God is? We know this but we don’t know this. God is love! God doesn’t have a condemning eye for anyone. When you enter into the realm of Tabernacles, there is no way that you condemn another human being, no matter who or what they are. A couple of years ago, I gave a message on reconciliation, and somebody asked me, "Brother, do you mean to tell me that even a man like Hitler is one day going to be saved?" I said this, "When Jesus was on the Cross, He looked at the very men that had done those horrible things to Him and He said, ‘Father forgive them, they don’t know what they’re doing.’ Do you think you could possibly find it in your heart to look at a man like Hitler and say, ‘Father, forgive him, he does not know what he is doing’?"
I hear all the time how the people in America have rejected God and I say, "No they haven’t. They have rejected the concept of God which has been given to them." Nobody would see the loveliness and the beauty of my Father and reject Him. And if they did, the only thing that would happen to them is that His love and His correction would eventually cause them to bow the knee. You see, God conquers His enemies from within.
Ruling and Reigning
We have this carnal mindset about how Jesus is coming back and we’re going to reign and rule with Him for a thousand years. Do you think, my friends, that you’re going to legislate morality? And even if you did, would people really be that much different? You see, it’s not legislating morality or changing the law that sets the Kingdom of God in order, it’s the changing of men’s hearts. If you have the traditional concept of ruling and reigning with Christ, in that regard you are most Adamic in your nature, because Adam always wants to rule over others. I think it would be said we rule and reign as Christ on the earth. How many can do that? Don’t think that when Jesus comes back He is going to take a bunch of carnal Christians and make them rulers over the nations. Not a chance. As one sister said, "Get a grip." The only ones who will be ruling and reigning with Him are those who are reigning as Christ on the earth. He does not force His rule and reign over one single human being, he wins them through love. He defeats them from within and not from without.
When you enter into the realm of Tabernacles, you begin to understand what the apostle Paul meant in 2 Corinthians 4:18 when he said, "We look not at the things that are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal," which means subject to change. Everything that you see with your physical eyes is subject to change. The only things that are unchangeable and immovable are spiritual things. You must see humanity through the eyes of spirit. You must begin to look with the eyes of God to the unseen rather than the realm of the seen. That’s why I say that no matter what condition I might find you in, I have nothing for you but good news, encouraging words, and a message of love from our Father. I’m not going to try to convince you if you’re a Hindu that my religion is better than yours. Forget it!
You probably know or have heard of T.L. Osborne. When he was first called to the mission field, he said, "I went over and I began to teach them that my God was better than their God, and that my scriptures were the true scriptures and their scriptures were the false scriptures. I didn’t get anywhere."
How could I convince you that the Bible wasn’t written by God? Who could convince you of that? So do you think that you can tell a Muslim that his scriptures are of the devil, but you’ve got the right ones? He will say the same thing to you. So T.L. said, "Daisy and I spent months on the mission field, and came home beaten and discouraged—we were battered and we were hopeless because we could not convince people that our God was better than theirs and that our scriptures were true and theirs were false." He spent nights agonizing in prayer and in intercession, feeling like such a failure. Then God came to him one night and instructed him on what to do. "I got up and said, ‘Daisy here we go.’ We went back to that country, following the voice of the Lord as He instructed me. The first thing we did was we said, ‘Find the most feeble, the most sickly, those in the worst physical condition you can find, and bring them to me.’ And they did." Then he spoke a word of healing and there was instantaneous healing. He didn’t have to convince people whose God was right. See, in the realm of Tabernacles, you can only do that which God speaks to you. Part of the training in Tabernacles is that you realize, more than you’ve ever realized before, the awesomeness of your responsibility.
Jesus went through this. When He was twelve years old, He knew who He was. How do you suppose it affected Him to walk through masses of people from the age of 12 to 30, knowing who He was and the abilities contained within Him? Yet He dared not move until it was His time. In Pentecost, we get a gift of God and we run around using it on everybody who will listen to us. We get a little bit of discernment and we go tell everybody and we prophecy over everybody. Give me a break! You’ll never enter into Tabernacles until you have passed through Pentecost and gone into the Holiest of All. You talk about power. But you know what (and this is sad), I personally know some men that this has happened to—that have come into this realm of this awesome power of God and have then used it for selfish gain. They haven’t entered into the realm of Tabernacles. I sometimes share it like this: Your spirit is kind of like a magnet. Whatever you desire with all of your heart, you will attract to you.
Some of you may have read Stephen’s Jones’ book, Hearing God’s Voice (God’s Kingdom Ministries, PO Box 3929, Batesville, AR, 72503), where he talks about the idols of the heart. You can want something from God so desperately, and get it, but totally miss God. Because of the circles I was in for a few years and the church that I was associated with, I came across and rubbed shoulders with some of the most famous men in Christian circles. I saw some that were very proficient in the gifts. They would walk up, having never seen you before, and they would say, "Your name is Bud, you’re from Spokane. You have a sister back in Kansas by the name of Sue. She has tuberculosis and she is taking (they name a medicine)." I have seen this time and time again. I have walked with some of these men, and I’m telling you, they are not spiritual men. They truly have a gift of God, and there are times I have been blessed with a word from the Lord. But the point I want to make is this (and we are all too well familiar with these verses), that there may come a day when judgment comes, and it’s not necessarily after you die. There will come a day when God will begin to judge you, and begin to bring His correction reproof upon you. You will say, "But God, we cast out demons in your name, we healed the sick, we raised the dead," and you may hear Him say, "I never knew you." It took me an awfully long time to understand those verses, until I began to enter into the experience of Tabernacles.
God is bringing a people today to that place where we want absolutely nothing but Him. Isn’t that a miracle? It has taken generations, we are on the shoulders of many generations of faithful men and women. We just happen to be here at the right time when the fullness of His presence is filling the temple. So, entering into Tabernacles, you will find that you will be stripped of everything. You may begin to have a period in your life when you can’t even pray anymore. Have you ever been there? I have been, by the grace of the Lord, so diligent in seeking after Him. I would get up at 4am every day of the week to be able to have a minimum of an hour to seek God before I drove 45 minutes to work. Then I came into a period of my life when I just couldn’t pray anymore. And then one day, a brother came up to me when I was experiencing this and he said, "God just spoke a word to me to give to you and He said, ‘I am going to take your diligence and turn it into My diligence.’" After a while, it just dawned on me why I couldn’t pray anymore, because all my praying that I was doing was from Pentecost in the carnal realm.
Prayer
Prayer is communication. Prayer does not mean that I just unceasingly talk to God. Prayer is an attitude. I began to realize what Paul meant when he said, "Pray without ceasing" (1 Thes. 5:17). I was trying to do that, but you see, it’s an attitude. I live in a prayerful attitude all the time. In the realm of Tabernacles, you see that everything is of God. That’s why you don’t see good and evil anymore, you see everything is of God. So I began to realize that everything that came into my life that I used to think was demonic and evil and that it was the devil trying to destroy me through sickness and disease, I saw God open my eyes to see that, "Son, everything comes to you through the permissible hand of God." Until you hear that, and really hear that, you’ll always be fighting demons, devils and everything else. But in the realm of Tabernacles, you see that "Known by God, all His works from beginning to the end."
Only God knows what it takes to bring each individual into a place where he will fully bow into submission. Only God knows what it takes to chip all the old dead marble off of the beauty that is on the inside. And now, I dare not say a prayer for anyone unless God speaks to me that it is time for their healing, time for their deliverance, time to speak this word to them. In Tabernacles, you must only do those things that you hear God speak to you to do, you must not pray for someone according to your concepts and what you think He told his disciples to do years ago. When this first began to happen to me, I didn’t know how to handle this. I didn’t have any wisdom at all, so the first time somebody came up and asked me to pray for them and I felt the check, I said, "No, God doesn’t want me to pray for you." I didn’t mean it wrong, but that was terrible! But you know, now, even if I know that God doesn’t want me to pray, it’s okay to pray.
I’m not saying it’s not okay to pray for someone, but many times now when I pray for someone, I won’t utter a word. It is not necessary. Vocal communication in Tabernacles IS NOT NECESSARY! The only thing that is necessary is God in His Holy Temple. A simple touch, a simple smile, can do more in a moment than all of your carnal praying for God to move on your behalf. I like to say (although it doesn’t sound very nice for religious ears) that that’s when I discovered that God was not some big Santa Claus up in the sky who rewarded me when I was good and punished me when I was evil. He makes His reign, His Spirit, His loveliness, His beauty, fall upon the bad and the good, the just and the unjust.
My prayer life has so drastically changed that I can honestly say to you that I never go to God and ask Him for a thing. There’s a realm you begin to walk into where you realize that to seek the Kingdom of God and His righteousness is simply to have a heart’s desire to be absolutely at one and in right standing with God. Now you may not be there yet, so it’s a heart’s desire—you simply have that heart’s desire. If you seek first His Kingdom and His righteousness, all things shall be added unto you (Matt. 6:33). So if I find myself today in a kind of a lack, whether it be financially, whether it be physically, whether it be emotionally, it doesn’t matter what it is, I simply realize that my Father has absolutely provided everything that I need and so my attention and my focus must not be upon the lack. The more you fight lack, the more likely you will enter into lack. The more you center and focus on God’s ability and God’s sustenance and God being able to provide abundantly above all you can ask or think, the more THAT will be your experience.
Proper Focus
Somebody said to me once, all you need to do is reckon yourself dead. I’m sure we’ve all tried this. The more that I would try to reckon myself dead, the more alive I became. This is a principle, that whatever you focus on will be your experience. For instance, we have people today whose focus is on sports. Maybe it’s baseball. I personally know people who know all the batter’s names; who know their averages, who know everything about them. When they speak, baseball just flows out of them, and the more they speak about baseball, the more they fall in love with it. Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. That principle applies spiritually in everything that you do.
I used to say things like, "God I know that when you come back I’ll still have a cigarette in my hand." I said that to God and meant it with all my heart, and yet I would try to quit. The harder I tried to quit, the more I’d smoke. If you are a fat person and try to diet, you will eat more, because whatever you focus on becomes a stronghold in your life. That’s why it says in 1 Corinthians 15:56, "The strength of sin is the Law." The moment you take the Law unto yourself, with your will power, to try to perform it, that gives it a stronghold in your life. The strength of sin is the Law. You try to walk according to the Law and you will give strength to your flesh. God will not allow the flesh to enter into the Kingdom.
People accuse me a lot of times of giving Christians a license to sin. I say, have you ever read Romans chapter 7? If any man ever gave anyone a license to sin, it was the apostle Paul, because he said that when I have a desire for God and I will to do what is right and I find that other Law working in my members and bringing me into the Law of Sin and Death, it’s no more I that does it. Romans chapter 7 is a salvation to those who are in captivity to sin. Paul so very clearly and emphatically says look, if you have problems in the flesh, if you have a desire for God and you decide to do what is right and you experience that pull of the flesh and you fall into sin, it is not you. You see, Paul knew man’s true identity. He said that it is not you, it’s that sin principle that is operating in you. So you must focus on Christ within, not on the sin in your flesh.
When you realize the truth of Adam and the truth of your real identity, it brings you into rest. When your flesh gets out of control and you occasionally do things that aren’t pleasing to God, you simply realize that that is not who you are. It is still that sin principle operating in you, and that will be dealt with as the Lord continually permeates and saturates your temple with His presence.
Do you know that the devil is a Pentecostal? You tell me what other realm you can get into today and hear so much about the devil. I have been in more Pentecostal meetings and heard more about the devil than I ever heard about God. For a long time I managed the Tree of Life Christian Bookstore in Eugene, Oregon, and the largest selling category of books that we had were books on demons and witchcraft and devils. What it was, was books trying to teach you how to deal with the devil. I’d be a fool to tell you the devil isn’t real, because he’s running rampant in Pentecost. But I’m telling you there is a higher realm, and in that realm there is no devil. Remember the words Jesus said, "The evil one comes, but he has nothing in Me." The only place the devil can be real to you is that place he has in you. If he has no place in you (I’m not saying for everyone), then the devil doesn’t bother you anymore. The devil never bothers me anymore. What I began to realize is that it is not the devil, it’s my flesh that needs to be dealt with.
People call me and say, "Brother, don’t you realize that Jesus cast out demons?" That still does not mean that there’s not a higher realm. Jesus met people in the place of their need. There is a realm where there is not devil or demons and all of this influence that can destroy you. It just isn’t there.
We have all of these thoughts and concepts about what it would be like to walk in the Kingdom, but if you will walk in love, not just for your brothers and sisters in the Lord, but if you will walk in love for all of humanity, you won’t judge. One of the most grievous things to me in these days is to hear one Christian judge another, and to hear somebody who is speaking truth that’s a little bit higher get criticized and called New Age. I want to say something, and I know I am sticking my neck out in saying this. Right today there is more truth in what the New Age is saying than what most Christians are saying. At the same time I will tell you, COME OUT of everything and come to God. I am not supporting New Age or Christians or Buddhists, I am simply saying that God has truth everywhere you look. People are blasting what God is speaking today from His Holy Temple because what is coming forth from His Holy Temple has been taught in Hinduism for thousands of years. That doesn’t mean it isn’t true, it’s just been perverted. Man always perverts truth. But when you can walk in total love and acceptance, you will stop pointing the finger. Remember what Paul told us in Hebrews 6:1, "Therefore, leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection."
If God says to me today, I want you to go down the street and I want you to find this man, and he has a demonic spirit and I want you to cast it out, I am not going to say, "Well God, I’m not in Pentecost anymore, I’m in Tabernacles," I’m going to do what God says. I’m saying, you should always listen to God and do what He says. Anything outside of that, and you’re being an outlaw.
Walking In Love
The Kingdom of God is to walk in love. Love knows nothing but a desire to edify and to build. Of course, there is a severity to love. It’s a fearful thing (to the flesh) to fall into the corrective hand of God. But we must realize that to walk in God is simply to walk in love. It’s that simple. Whenever you look at a human being, no matter what they’re doing, no matter what they’re saying, and you feel resentment rising up in you, you can be assured that’s not God. God is not insensitive to these things, but the character of God is to restore, not to condemn. It’s a matter of attitude. As you walk in love, your main concern will be to bring restoration and not condemnation.
So in simple terms, to walk in the Kingdom of God is simply to walk in love. It is really that simple. What does love do? Here is something God instructed me to read, and I did it for months and months and months until it began to work itself into me:
"The love of God has been shed abroad in my heart by the Holy Spirit. Therefore, I endure and I am patient and kind. I am never envious. I never boil over with jealousy. I’m not boastful or vainglorious. I don’t display myself haughtily. I’m not conceited, arrogant or inflated with pride. I’m not rude. I do not act unbecomingly. I do not insist upon my own rights and my own way, because I am not self seeking. I’m not touchy. I’m not fretful, nor am I resentful. I take no account of the evil which is done to me. I pay no attention to a suffered wrong. I do not rejoice in injustice or in unrighteousness, but I rejoice when right and truth prevail. I bear up under everything that comes, and I am always ready to believe the very best of every person. My hopes are fadeless under all circumstances, and I endure everything without weakening. I never fail."
Those aren’t just words to me (if I can say this without sounding boastful). If you talk to my wife, she will tell you that this is what flows out of me. This is not Adam trying to make himself godly, this is simply what I am. Do I still make mistakes? Of course I do. Do I still miss God? Only every day of my life. But I realize today, more than ever before, that I am Christ, once again, being manifested on the earth. And my friend, so are you. You have the divine essence and substance of everything that He is. All you need is an unveiling to see that what I’m speaking to you is true, and you will realize that you are not Adam—the struggles are over, the work is complete. You are complete in Him who is the head of all principalities and powers. I’m complete in Him. What authority has any demonic influence over me? I have been, as the Word says, delivered out of the kingdom of darkness, transferred or translated into the Kingdom of His Son (Col. 1:13). If that has happened to us (and it most certainly has), what influence has demonic power over us?
I still hear people say how the principalities and the powers of darkness are prevailing over the Northwest. Well, you know what, there was a time in my experience when I experienced that and I felt the heaviness, but I don’t now. There’s a realm in God where nothing affects you. There is nothing in Tabernacles but God, in the Holy of Holies. You can’t imagine how wonderful it is for me to be able to share some of these things. "To him that overcomes, I will give to eat of the hidden manna" (Rev. 2:17). And oh, when you begin to taste some of these things, you have such a deep desire to share them, but until the people and the time are right, you can’t. The message on mistaken identity has been in me for years, and only from person to person at times could I share it. But today there are many other groups I can go to and speak it forth. God has prepared a people, to bring them into the fullness of Tabernacles. We are a blessed generation, absolutely blessed. Hallelujah!